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APDR Podcast Episode 142 with host Kym Bergmann

By Kym Bergmann

•Jun 10, 2026
APDR Podcast Episode 142 with host Kym Bergmann

There has been more news about AUKUS Pillar One and the developing story that Australia will no longer receive two second hand and one new Virginia class submarine from the US – as had been previously promised. The government is all over the shop, claiming that the closure of the Strait of Hormuz somehow justifies the acquisition of SSNs. No it doesn’t – submarines are almost completely useless in the current scenario because you can’t use them for clearing minefields or shooting down swarms of drones. Under the original deal the new submarine was to be a Block VII Virginia, delivered in 2038. Block VII is much more powerful than the second hand Block IVs. They will carry 40 Tomahawk surface attack cruise missiles, compared with 12 for a Block IV. They will also have features for protecting undersea cables and launching a variety of uncrewed systems. Put simply, a Block VII is a far more powerful, modern, deterrent than Block IV. Any official who says Block IVs are preferred because they are cheaper to maintain – even though they cannot say how much cheaper – should be sacked. A single Block VII carries as many Tomahawks as three and a half Block IVs. (A Virginia Block VII is 115m in length, not 140m.) To listen to the podcast, click here. For Editorial Inquiries Contact: Editor Kym Bergmann at [email protected] For Advertising Inquiries Contact: Group Sales Director Simon Hadfield at [email protected]

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Kym Bergmann
Kym Bergmannhttps://asiapacificdefencereporter.com/

Kym Bergmann has more than 35 years of experience in journalism and Australian and international defence industry. After graduating with Honors from the Australian National University, he joined Capital 7 television, holding several positions including foreign news editor and chief political correspondent.

After 2 years on the staff of a Federal Minister, he moved to the defence sector and held senior positions in several companies, including Blohm+Voss, Thales, Celsius and Saab. In 1997 he was one of 2 Australians selected for the Thomson CSF 'Preparation for Senior Management' MBA course, the other being Chris Jenkins - formerly the CEO of Thales Australia.

He has also worked as a consultant for a number of companies, including Raytheon, Tenix (now part of BAES) and Martin Marrietta (now part of Lockheed Martin). He had several board appointments, including Thomson Sintra Pacific (1994 - 96) and Saab Pacific (1998 - 2003).

He retains good personal links with senior figures in Government, as well as in industry and the media. He decided to return to journalism in May 2008, and holds the position of editor for Asia Pacific Defence Reporter (APDR) and Defence Review Asia (DRA). He is also a podcaster and commentator on defence and national security issues.

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